- Description
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- Creator(s)
- Thomas Girtin (1775-1802) and (?) Joseph Mallord William Turner (1775-1851) after (?) Edward Dayes (1763-1804)
- Title
-
- An Upland Scene with a Wooded Valley
- Date
- 1794 - 1797
- Medium and Support
- Graphite and watercolour on wove paper
- Dimensions
- 30 × 46.5 cm, 11 ⅞ × 18 ¼ in
- Inscription
'J. Munro', inscribed in pencil on reverse
- Object Type
- Collaborations; Copy from an Unknown Source; Monro School Copy
- Subject Terms
- Hills and Mountains; Unidentified Landscape
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- Collection
- Catalogue Number
- TG0508a
- Description Source(s)
- Gallery Website
Provenance
Sir Michael Ernest Sadler (1861–1943); presented to the University of Leeds, 1923
Exhibition History
Leeds, 1962, no.98 as 'Mountain and Trees' by Joseph Mallord William Turner; Leeds, 1985, no.10; Leeds, 1989, no.63
Bibliography
Diaper, 2012, p.105
Other entries in Monro School Copies:
British Views, Including Works after the Outlines of John Henderson
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0160-pi.jpg)
An Upland Landscape with a Rainbow, Said to Be Lowther Fells
Kendal Town Hall
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0192-pi.jpg)
Tonbridge Bridge and Castle
Yale Center for British Art, New Haven
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0200-pi.jpg)
The High Rocks, near Tunbridge Wells
National Gallery of Scotland, Edinburgh
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0241-pi.jpg)
The Town of Rye, Seen from the Marshes
Yale Center for British Art, New Haven
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0263-pi.jpg)
Dover Castle, Seen from the Beach
Yale Center for British Art, New Haven
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0508a-pi.jpg)
An Upland Scene with a Wooded Valley
Leeds University Art Gallery
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0766-pi.jpg)
Unidentified Medieval Ruins, with Agricultural Buildings
Tate, London
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0767-pi.jpg)
A View near Keswick, Probably Bassenthwaite Lake
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0768-pi.jpg)
Skiddaw and Bassenthwaite Lake, from the Vale of Newlands
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0769-pi.jpg)
Looking South into Borrowdale, from the Shore of Derwentwater
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0769a-pi2.jpg)
Mountainous Landscape, Possibly in the Lake District
Walker Art Gallery, National Museums Liverpool
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0770-pi.jpg)
Boon Crag Cottage, with Coniston Water Beyond
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0771-pi.jpg)
A View in Cumbria, Probably Looking from Irton Fell towards Ravenglass
Clark Art Institute, Williamstown
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0772-pi.jpg)
A View in Cumbria, Looking towards Irton and the Irish Sea, with the Isle of Man in the Distance
Tate, London
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0773-pi.jpg)
The River Leven, Cumbria, Viewed from Penny Bridge
Tate, London
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0774-pi-2.jpg)
St John's Vale, Cumbria
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0775-pi.jpg)
The Lodore Falls
Yale Center for British Art, New Haven
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0776-pi.jpg)
Langdale Pikes
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0777-pi.jpg)
An Unidentified Bridge over a Stream, Possibly in North Wales
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0778-pi.jpg)
Derwentwater, with Skiddaw in the Distance
Eton College, Windsor
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0778a-pi.jpg)
Beddgelert Bridge, North Wales
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0779-pi.jpg)
A Mountainous Landscape with an Overshot Mill
Clark Art Institute, Williamstown
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0779a-pi-2.jpg)
A Mountainous River Landscape with a Bridge
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0780-pi-2.jpg)
Cynwyd Mill, near Corwen, North Wales
Brandler Galleries, Brentwood
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0781-pi.jpg)
Conwy: The Town Walls from the South East
Tate, London
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0782-pi.jpg)
Raglan Castle: The Great Hall
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0783-pi-2.jpg)
A Mountainous Landscape with an Unidentified Bridge, Possibly in North Wales
Ashmolean Museum, University of Oxford
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0783a-pi.jpg)
The Iron Bridge at Coalbrookdale
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0784-pi.jpg)
An Estuary, Possibly Dartmouth
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0786-pi.jpg)
Grasmere: Looking North West to Helm Crag
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0788-pi.jpg)
The Head of Lake Windermere
Rhode Island School of Design Museum, Providence
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0788a-pi.jpg)
The Head of Derwentwater, with the Lodore Falls
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0794-pi.jpg)
Dover Harbour, with Shipping Being Overhauled
Tate, London
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0795-pi-1.jpg)
A Two-Master in Dover Harbour, with the Castle Beyond
Tate, London
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0796-pi.jpg)
Dover Harbour: A Ship Being Overhauled
Tate, London
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0797-pi.jpg)
A Boat on the Shore, near Shakespeare Cliff, Dover
Tate, London
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0798-pi.jpg)
Dover Harbour: Fishing Vessels, Their Sails Drying
Tate, London
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0799-pi.jpg)
Shipping in Dover Harbour, with the Castle Beyond
Tate, London
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A Lake View, Possibly Ullswater
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0801-pi.jpg)
A General View of Dover Harbour, from the East
Tate, London
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0803-pi.jpg)
Dover Harbour: Small Boats by the Quay
Tate, London
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0804-pi.jpg)
Boats in Dover Harbour
British Museum, London
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0806-pi.jpg)
A Ship under Repair in Dover Harbour
National Gallery of Ireland, Dublin
![]( /media/w450/comparative/tg0808-pi.jpg)
Figures on a Fishing Vessel in Dover Harbour
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/comparative/tg0808-ci1.jpg)
A Fishing Vessel with Hastings Beyond
Birmingham Museums & Art Gallery
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0809-pi.jpg)
Dover Castle from the Sea
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0810-pi.jpg)
A Beached Vessel in the Inner Harbour at Dover
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0811-pi.jpg)
Dover Harbour, with the Castle on the Hill
British Museum, London
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0811a-pi.jpg)
Dover Harbour
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0812-pi.jpg)
Beached Vessels in Dover Harbour, the Castle in the Distance
Smith College Museum of Art, Northampton
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0813-pi.jpg)
Vessels Anchored in Dover Harbour, with the Castle Beyond
National Gallery of Scotland, Edinburgh
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0814-pi.jpg)
Warehouses with Shipping in Dover Harbour
Smith College Museum of Art, Northampton
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0815-pi.jpg)
Vessels in the Harbour at Dover, with the Castle Beyond
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0816-pi.jpg)
Dover Harbour, with the Cliffs Beyond
Tasmanian Museum and Art Gallery, Hobart
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0816a-pi.jpg)
Vessels Moored in Dover Harbour
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0817-pi.jpg)
The Inner Harbour, Dover, with the Castle Beyond
Brighton Museum and Art Gallery
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0818-pi.jpg)
A Ship Drawn Up on a Beach Being Careened
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0819-pi.jpg)
Beached Fishing Vessels, Dover Harbour
National Gallery of Ireland, Dublin
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0820-pi.jpg)
Beached Fishing Vessels in the Harbour at Dover
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0821-pi.jpg)
Boats Anchored in Dover Harbour
Victoria and Albert Museum, London
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0822-pi-1.jpg)
Boats Anchored in Dover Harbour
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0823-pi-1.jpg)
Dover Harbour, with Fishing Boats at Low Tide
The High Museum of Art, Atlanta
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0824-pi.jpg)
Dover: The Harbour with Vessels
Fitzwilliam Museum, University of Cambridge
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0825-pi.jpg)
A Smack in Dover Harbour, Drying Sails, with the Old Church in the Distance
National Maritime Museum, Greenwich
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0826-pi.jpg)
Dover Harbour: A Boat under Repair
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0827-pi.png)
Fishing Boats at Low Tide, near Dover
Courtauld Gallery, London
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0828-pi.jpg)
Dover: Two Boatmen Standing by the Prow of a Brig
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0829-pi-1.jpg)
Dover Harbour
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0830-pi.jpg)
A Fisherman's Cottage, Said to Be at Dover
Yale Center for British Art, New Haven
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0831-pi.jpg)
The Hull of a Ship under Repair, with a Barge and Smaller Boats
Tate, London
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0832-pi.jpg)
A Boat-Builder’s Yard, Possibly on the River Medway
Fitzwilliam Museum, University of Cambridge
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0832a-pi.jpg)
A Boat-Builder’s Yard, Possibly on the Medway
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0832b-pi.jpg)
A Boat-Builder’s Yard, Possibly on the River Medway
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0833-pi.jpg)
A Boat-Builder's Shed, Possibly on the River Medway
National Gallery of Scotland, Edinburgh
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0833b-pi.jpg)
A Boat-Builder’s Shed, Possibly on the River Medway, with a Fishing Boat with Drying Sails
Tate, London
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0834-pi.jpg)
The Coast, near Dover
The Higgins, Bedford
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0834a-pi.jpg)
Folkestone Harbour
Julian Huxley-Parlour Fine Art, London
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0835-pi.jpg)
Beachy Head, Looking towards Newhaven
National Gallery of Scotland, Edinburgh
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0836-pi.jpg)
Beachy Head, Looking towards Newhaven
Ulster Museum, Belfast
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0837-pi.jpg)
Shakespeare Cliff, Dover
National Gallery of Ireland, Dublin
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0838-pi.jpg)
Beached Vessels in Dover Harbour, the Castle in the Distance
Ashmolean Museum, University of Oxford
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0839-pi-2.jpg)
Buildings on a Wooden Quayside
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0840-pi.jpg)
A Coast View with Chalk Cliffs, Probably from near Beachy Head
Ashmolean Museum, University of Oxford
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0841-pi.jpg)
A Small Boat under Repair by a Jetty
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0842-pi.jpg)
Dover: Snargate Street, Looking West
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0844-pi.jpg)
Dartford High Street
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0845-pi.jpg)
Tonbridge Bridge and Castle
Fitzwilliam Museum, University of Cambridge
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0846-pi.jpg)
Rye, from the River Tillingham
National Gallery of Scotland, Edinburgh
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0848-pi.jpg)
Dover: Fishing Boats at Low Tide
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0849-pi.jpg)
Two Boatmen Caulking the Bows of a Beached Brig, Probably at Dover
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0854-pi-1.jpg)
Hastings: A Beached Fishing Boat
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0854a-pi.jpg)
A Coastal Scene at Dover
Worthing Museum and Art Gallery
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Mickleham Church
Tate, London
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Dolbadarn Castle on Llyn Padarn
Clark Art Institute, Williamstown
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Conwy Castle, from the East
Huddersfield Art Gallery
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0926-pi.jpg)
Harlech Castle, from the South
National Gallery of Ireland, Dublin
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0926a-pi.jpg)
The Gatehouse, Harlech Castle, Seen from the Moat
Private Collection, Gloucestershire
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The High Street at Egham
Private Collection
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Boats in Dover Harbour
Leeds Art Gallery
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg0993-pi.jpg)
Two Trees Overlooking a Meandering River
Private Collection
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A Dilapidated Cottage
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg1468-pi.jpg)
Dover: Boats Anchored in the Harbour
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg1470-pi.jpg)
A Coastal View near Dover, probably at St Margaret's, Cliffe
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg1471-pi.jpg)
Dover: Beached Boats, with the Castle Beyond
Private Collection
![]( /media/w450/primary/tg1473-pi.jpg)
Dover Harbour: The Stern of a Large Ship, and Smaller Vessels
Tate, London
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The Town of Rye, Seen from the Marshes
British Museum, London
Footnotes
- 1 The full diary entry, giving crucial details of the artists’ work at Monro’s house, is transcribed in the Documents section of the Archive (1798 – Item 2).
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About this Work
This unidentified view, possibly in the Lake District, was in all likelihood made at the home of Dr Thomas Monro (1759–1833), where Girtin and his contemporary Joseph Mallord William Turner (1775–1851) were employed across three winters, probably between 1794 and 1797. Their task, as they recalled to the diarist Joseph Farington (1747–1821), was to copy ‘the outlines or unfinished drawings of’ principally John Robert Cozens (1752–97), but other artists too, including Girtin’s master, Edward Dayes (1763–1804). The ‘finished drawings’ they were commissioned to produce were the result of a strict division of labour: ‘Girtin drew in outlines and Turner washed in the effects’. As the young artists reported, ‘They went at 6 and staid till Ten’ with Turner receiving ‘3s. 6d each night’ whilst ‘Girtin did not say what He had’ (Farington, Diary, 12 November 1798).1 The outcome of their joint labours was substantial, amounting to several hundred drawings of which at least twenty are Lake District scenes presumably after compositions by Dayes, including Derwentwater, with Skiddaw in the Distance (TG0778) and Two Trees Overlooking a Meandering River (TG0993) which, as here, both feature a prominent arboreal motif to one side.
Girtin made a number of copies of his master’s views of Lake District scenery during his apprenticeship, including Lake Windermere and Belle Isle (TG0078). Since he was never actually to travel to one of the country’s most popular picturesque regions, for artists as well as their patrons and customers, he based his views on the works of others throughout his career. As with the numerous copies that Girtin and Turner created from compositions by Cozens, it was the slight sketches and outlines that Dayes made on his travels that were used as the sources for their more finished watercolours. Monro’s posthumous sale in 1833 contained several hundred of Dayes’ sketches, including seven ‘Views on the lakes, blue and Indian ink’, as well as depictions of ‘Keswick, Glanton, Patterdale’, all presumably made on his only documented visit to the Lake District in 1789, and there is no evidence that Monro owned any of the older artist’s more substantial studio works (Exhibitions: Christie’s, 2 July 1833, lots 42 and 45). Typically, the precise Dayes source of this view has not been traced, though this does not mean we should look elsewhere for its model. Few of Dayes’ sketches have survived or been identified and, arguably, the fact that no source can be found suggests that it was a thoroughly unprepossessing drawing that was copied.
Monro’s posthumous sale contained more than forty Lake District views, all of which were attributed solely to Turner. Unlike Girtin, Turner did visit the region, albeit briefly, in 1797. However, whilst some of the items in the Monro sale may have resulted from this trip, the majority were noted as being in ‘blue and Indian ink’ and therefore employed the palette generally associated with the Monro School works (traces of blue on the top edge suggest that this work has faded). The attribution of the Lake District views to Turner alone has been increasingly challenged in recent years, following the publication of a pioneering article by Andrew Wilton (Wilton, 1984a, pp.8–23), though Girtin has not hitherto been linked with this work. That is doubly surprising as there are a number of telltale signs in the pencil work that point to Girtin’s hand and the monochrome washes also employ his characteristically understated and laconic style with rapidly applied and watery tones quite unlike Turner’s smaller more careful touches. Consequently, I am inclined to add a question mark next to Turner’s name and suggest that in this case Girtin may have taken the opportunity to add washes to his own outline and try out a thoroughly Dayesian composition.
1794 - 1797
Derwentwater, with Skiddaw in the Distance
TG0778
1794 - 1797
Two Trees Overlooking a Meandering River
TG0993
1791 - 1792
Lake Windermere and Belle Isle
TG0078